Thank you again. Going Beyond Ministries with Priscilla Shirer - The Mercy of Our Great God (March 24, 2017) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at Celebration Church (co-"pastored" by a woman) Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (May 21, 2021) Priscilla preaching to a co-ed audience at Passion 2018 I am curious, have you confronted Priscilla Shirer of this sin. We cannot live without fear. If not, she does not know the Bible well enough to be teaching (James 3:1). Yes, Kenneth Hagin was one of the worst false teachers out there. In Acts 17:11, the Bereans are praised for comparing everything Paul said to Scripture to see if it was true. Heres just one example of Priscilla preaching to men: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fIzWbXvfps. What Priscilla and so many others do is pretty much the opposite of a parable. Good News Translation For your sake, my friends, I have applied all this to Apollos and me, using the two of us as an example, so that you may learn what the saying means, "Observe the proper rules." We are to base everything we think, do, and believe on Scripture. In Matthew 18:15-18, It carefully lays out a process of correcting fellow Christians that have sinned. 1 Yes, hope is needed, and no youre not going to find it on the news, but youre not going to find true hope in Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer, either, because not only can you not find hope in bad news (like the TV news) but you cant find hope in false news either, and thats what they teach. She does teach and preach to men whether I say she does or not. If you need more information, Id suggest BereanResearch.org, FightingForTheFaith.com, CARM.org, GTY.org, and Apprising.org. There is no dearth of advice for us believers about how to deal with this situation. I dont know half of your theological terminology, For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. #4b believers from different denominations Priscilla references who rattled her theological box may have been part of Priscillas initial exposure to false Word of Faith teaching and false teachers such as the aforementioned Meyer, Caine and Osteens. Since you havent had a chance to question Priscilla about what she was talking about here (or maybe it was revealed in this Bible study? You may have loved her in War Room and want to buy her books. It states our purpose to do only those things which are authorized by the Scripture. How to Live Beyond Yourself We can experience fullness of life by acknowledging our weakness, putting our past behind us, striving toward a worthy goal, and going for broke. It sounds like you want to be discerning and weigh things carefully. In fact, the Bible says the opposite. Thats why I said may have been. Whether that particular moment in time was, in fact, the moment that Priscilla was introduced to false doctrine and false teachers can be debated, but the fact of the matter is that she came under the influence of false teachers at some point and still unequally yokes herself to them and teaches false doctrine today. These women are an excellent entry way in to the faith. There are I totally disagree with you on this. ), The Treasure You Already Are | Priscilla Shirer | [at Joyce Meyers] Love Life Womens Conference 2013, Priscilla Shirer Talks Women and the Church, Moving From the Pew to the Pavement and Why Christine Caine Is at the Top of Her List at the Christian Post, Priscilla Shirer recommends Joyce Meyer, Ann Voskamp, Beth Moore, Jen Hatmaker, Jennie Allen, etc., Bible studies on her blog at Going Beyond, Priscilla Shirer speaks at Joyce Meyers womens conference alongside false teachers Joyce Meyer, Lisa Harper, and Sarah Jakes Roberts (T.D. To think one can just enter there work into the public domain without criticism, is simply ludicrous! Maybe references other than S. Michael Houdmann (I think Michael does a very nice job on his website but he and his wife started GotQuestions.org after he claims to have received a vision from God to help others and by your own admission, visions and feelings are not Godly direction.) The result is that those doctrines and beliefs often conflict with Scripture because theyre not based on Scripture but a fallible personal experience. Holy cow! How is this different?. How is this different? Do you have other references to their false teaching? They needed to be reminded of who the true Christ of Scripture was. They had started out on the right foot with the biblical gospel, but false teachings were beginning to take hold. Priscilla Shirer: Living Your Life For Christ (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (February 18, 2021) Priscilla speaks at Christine Caines Propel Womens Conference. read more, Scripture: What we believe about God must come from Scripture alone. How do we respond to those who are new Christians and who still "smell" of their former sinful lives? 18:15-18), although I would add: The minute someone puts something on Youtube, Face Book, Twitter, or any other social media, or public outlet for that matter, your proof text falls flat in on itself, because more than anything this text deals with proper Church discipline. 5. Here is a partial list of things that the Bible does not answer definitively: 1. Do you send women to your articles as a response?. And i have my wife to thank actually, because she asked me to help her find some pretty theologically sound ladies, and it was in a post Michelle did that she found what she was looking for. Well, that is why the rubber band was made, to be stretched. I think it should be obvious that a face to face discussion is different from a written one, so theres no need to go into that. If you have Priscillas contact information and can get her to talk to me (Ive attempted to communicate with her several times and have been ignored), I will be delighted to discuss this issue and the entirety of this article with her. There are still some good, solid blogs over there (such as Kevin DeYoungs and Erik Raymonds), and they frequently put out helpful, doctrinally solid articles, but Ive chosen to use other sources instead. You must be afraid of some things, or else you will be in trouble. Scripture (Romans 16:17-18, 2 John 9-1, Titus 3:10-11, and others) says we are to run from them, not listen to them, and certainly we should not encourage lost people to listen to them, lest they put their faith in a false christ and remain in their sin. A large chunk of the New Testament (Matthew 7:15-23, 2 Peter 2, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, the book of Jude, and many other passages) is devoted to warning people against false teaching. That is not what the Bible says that preachers and teachers are to do. #1- Thank you so much for letting me know that link was broken. But read her He Speaks to Me Bible study for yourself if you want to assess. What do you consider important/non-important and vital/non-vital, and on which Scriptures do you make these distinctions? Thats a rare find these days. Go beyond by faith. The reason I refer people in on line conversations to my articles is so I dont have to regurgitate what Ive already written. We are to go beyond encouragement. Thank you, Michelle! And then help teach it to other women. She admits it. , an unbiblical practice sometimes called narcissistic. So I was wondering if I could ask you a couple of questions regarding your comments before we begin our study? Finally, I agree we should seek out credible sources when reading news reports and things like that where were called upon to simply believe what were being told, but thats not the case here. I also have a few tape recording of her Bible Studies that were done either in her Sunday School or her Tuesday Bible Study Meetings where she actually dismisses men from the room when she was at a church in Houston. Being a person of great influence and wealth, he had demanded that he be given a place in the group because he wanted to "perform" before Grayson Baptist Church - July 28, 2013 Well, man, if theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pewthen I want one of those to be me., The story of Joshua and Caleb being the only ones to enter the Promised Land has absolutely no connection whatsoever with how many Christians today will be able to achieve intimacy with God. Its this link: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=18085. Go beyond putting ourselves first. Olga Souders As I mentioned in my comment, I was here with my wife, completely of my own volition, in no way did Michelle do anything unbiblical. Michelle, If he had, he would have been advocating one of four principles, which are inconsistent with the rest . (I remember when I was a missionary to New Guinea back in the 80s, the missionaries were teaching us how to reach the unsaved New Guinea nationals by telling simple Bible stories, and stories of how our lives were changed by Jesus. It is people like Priscilla Shirer who make up their own doctrine and point people to their personal views rather than the Bible. You just dont have enough time or energy to respond to every Tom, Dick and Mary.). Verse Concepts. 13 Bible Verses about God's Ways Beyond Human Understanding Most Relevant Verses Isaiah 55:8-9 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the Lord. Yet, I noticed in your comments that you did not once appeal to Scripture or support your position with Scripture. AT THE GOING BEYOND SIMULCAST, YOU CAN EXPECT: Bible teaching from best-selling author Priscilla Shirer To gain tools to study Scripture on your own To engage in worship led by Anthony Evans A powerful group prayer experience The opportunity to make an impact by partnering with a ministry If you dont sync with their teaching, dont follow them. However, under Three Suggestions he mentions biblical reflection, meditate on His word, and Christ-centered silence. Theres too much wiggle room in this article to pin him down on exactly what he means by silence. Id like to see him go back and tighten it up one way or the other to give clarity to his readers. One thats not a promotional tape? Please see the links to our EXTRA Bible Study notes at the bottom of the page. With continuous prayer, we have decided to proceed with her study but with open eyes to the objections you brought up. read more, Scripture: What is certain is that Paul, in saying, "do not go beyond what is written," was not teaching sola scriptura. (Yikes!). 7,400,364 journeys have been made to this site. read more, Scripture: Parables were a common form of teaching in Judaism ( to lead us to self-examination) (https://www.osv.com/Magazines/TheCatholicAnswer/ByIssue/Article/TabId/809/ArtMID/13667/ArticleID/16800/Why-Did-Jesus-Use-Parables.aspx) (oops~ this is a Catholic reference~ how bout this one: There is no passage of Scripture that says its OK for a woman to preach to, teach, or hold authority over men in the gathered body of believers as long as she has permission from her pastor or husband. God speaks to us and teaches us through the careful study and preaching of His word, not through subjective voices, feelings, and experiences in the rhythms of everyday living (what, precisely, does that phrase even mean?) I think youll also find my article Is She a False Teacher? Then you won't arrogantly place one of us in opposition to the other. Im pretty sure some of our ladies are going to ask me where the evidence is that she was purposely teaching scripture to men. Jakes church, The Potters House, where, during a Gods Leading Ladiesgraduation ceremony, Priscilla accepted the Lady of Destiny award. Why would the Bible give us both descriptive and prescriptive instruction to warn against false teaching if doing so is a sin (gossip)? Tonight at church he came up and thanked me for sharing and said he hated that these studies got past him. If thats not you, no need to read further, and I apologize in for any offense. Like you, I also dont understand why believers behave the way they do- taking to task those who stand firmly upon the truth of Gods word instead of rebuking and rejecting false teachers such as Priscilla Shirer, when this is so clearly what Scripture says to do. Paul refuted public false teaching publicly many times. You know, your making this comment right now is very interesting timing. Because you seem to be arguing against the biblical truth youve already read and have rejected reading any of the further biblical teaching Ive referred you to. 1. The Holy Spirit decided that what this church needed to combat that false teaching was a refresher course in Christology (the study of Christ- who He was, what He did, and why). And this faith is . God made you capable and smart enough to read His word in a systematic way, understand it, and grow from it. Are they preaching from a church pulpit on a Sunday morning as a pastor would? Going Beyond Obedience. There CAN be women from different denominations there, what is so wrong with that? You shall generously give to him, and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings. Neil Richardson has proposed that instead of getting back to the Bible we should go forward with the Bible. The problem at the Colossian church (the reason Paul wrote this epistle to them) was that false doctrine was starting to creep in. Defining moments, we all have them. Thank you! I also have a few tape recording of her Bible Studies that were done either in her Sunday School or her Tuesday Bible Study Meetings where she actually dismisses men from the room when she was at a church in Houston. 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